Many of us could not imagine that Romney could lose this election, especially after four years of Obama’s radical Marxism and its social and fiscal consequences that America will NEVER recover from. All the hype and all the Romney rallies; it indeed looked like a sure victory for Romney except for one equation, the Evangelical vote. We here at the IFB have talked back and forth among ourselves since the RNC convention and with others also in the know; that if the Evangelical vote did not show up on Nov. 6th the jig would be up and Romney would lose big… and indeed he has..
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way.
Remember, the GOP and Romney gave NO place to the Evangelical vote at the RNC convention. They outright snubbed us and that act rubbed Evangelicals the wrong way. The Evangelical vote consists of the TRUE social and moral conservatives of the party (i.e., the Right). Romney and the GOP also gave very little time to the Tea Party who is the heart of the grass root movement and the engine of the Party! The viewer ratings for the 2012 RNC convention were way down, some 40% and many of us- including myself - did not watch one lick of it. Why should we have? We knew what we were getting and many of us felt “diss’d” being left out as we were. That in its self should have set off warning bells to the RNC but in all honesty many of us who are Evangelicals were still going to vote for Romney holding our nose. It is our duty as Believers and an Americans to be salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and even though Romney was who he was; he was the better choice still and the lesser of the two evils for our nation. We were not going to trust in a Romney win but that a Romney win would slow down the final deterioration of our nation.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth and many have NOT forgotten it. Evangelicals felt betrayed and many did not vote for McCain in 2008 which gave Marxist Obama the victory. When you add the convention snub of Romney and the GOP that was the straw that broke the elephants back.
Many Evangelicals who voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004 felt betrayed by his agreeing with and passing many of the Marxist policies of the progressive Left. To this day it still has left a bad taste in our mouth.
Now we come to today, the day after the election and we once more again see that the Evangelical vote has stayed home; and in doing so have given Obama another four years to finish the job of transforming our nation and fundamentally changing our culture and way of life which includes the elimination of sound biblical Christianity. I know I am going to get a ton of hate mail for this statement, but SHAME ON YOU for sitting home and not choosing to be light and exercising your God given right to vote (Matt. 5:13-16)! I know all sides of this argument and there is still absolutely NO excuse (Matt. 5:13-16). Your self righteous pride, biblical ignorance and foolishness has open wide the door now for Christian persecution in our nation and the end of the freedoms we have for the furtherance of the Gospel. My friends, indeed the Day of the Lord is at hand, but WOE to any who seek to bring it about who call on the Name of Jesus Christ by being idol and slothful.This is NOT a sanctification matter and God will hold you accountable for hiding your light and voice.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us.
In the end, this 2012 election has revealed without a shadow of a doubt that the Evangelical element has lost its salt and light (Matt. 5:13-16) and that America has absolutely no problem in FULL LIGHT re-electing a radical progressive secular Marxists to reign over us. I think of Samuel when all of Israel wanted a king and not the Lord (1 Sam. 8). It broke his heart and rightly so! He knew what was coming. Thus America in this election has said quite loudly that we DO NOT want the God given freedom to exercise what our Founding Fathers envisioned, which was based on the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. In doing so we have REJECTED the Judeo/ Christian values and ideals which once made this country great. We have now as a nation fully taken on the mantle of Lawlessness and the spirit of Anti Christ as our nation’s ideology and culture.
Indeed, we as Evangelicals will now see what we must surely endure under lawless administration of Barack H. Obama and many Evangelical will be sifted and found wanting. That there... you can take to the bank!
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
I see some truth in your article. But only what you quote from Scripture, and not in your logic.
ReplyDeleteMaybe you may have seen the "Exit Polls" that I have not. And I won't bother reading them. I think that people may not be telling the truth, and even if they are, it may not be wise to draw broad conclusions from the polls taken after the privacy of the voting booth.
We are the vine and God is the gardener. I think i know how you feel about the election, and I think you are angry with America. I know I feel bitter and angry about the election. But you are talking to God's people. At least, that seems to be your target audience. And yes, the church (not talking about denominations here!) sometimes needs to hear harsh truth. Yes, some INDIVIDUALS stayed home and did not vote. But those individuals are probably not reading your blog. Those who are reading your blog are part of the vine, grafted into the vine that started with Abraham, adopted sons and daughters of the King. And they probably voted. Just my humble opinion.
I think you make an important point in the beginning of your article: the GOP did not court evangelicals, the tea party, or even the conservative wing in general.
It could be that as a result, many stayed home. But from what I have read, the "R" turnout was way up and the "D" turnout was way down. That is why I think the numbers do not make much sense. In my opinion, analysis of the election supports the possibility that it was stolen more than the possibility that evangelicals lost it by not voting. Anecdotal evidence is not worth much, so I am not going to go into detail on that. The info is out there if you want to look into it. But as you probably know, the pattern has been voter fraud rampant now for years.
I am a Texan transplanted to California. I work in the commercial nuclear power industry. I work lots of hours by my own choice and I belong to a union, not by my choice. I voted even though I knew that it mattered not a bit in this state of my temporary domain. I look forward to retirement and a move back to Texas.
I have been outraged and amazed by the residency of BHO. I was surprised by his re-election. My wife believes it is a "sign of the times" if you understand the meaning of that. I was discouraged by the election, but I have been reading a few articles this morning and having some quiet time.
Two articles I read were like yours in that they expressed some "hard truth", but they were expressed slightly differently, and came to different conclusions. Perhaps you would like to read them. The first can be summed up in this: "The left are winning because they have worked for it; in order to win we must work just as hard or harder for just as long or longer". Sultan Knish (Daniel Greenberg) is the blogger and the title is "Game called on account of Darkness". I recommend it.
The other is by Charles Hurt, in a more conventional media, the Washington Times. It presents the idea that a sufficient percentage of our country is swayed by the media and by government entitlements. Its called "Obama victory means four more years with no hope of change". I recommend it too.
These two articles may give you a slightly different perspective, but its up to you and God to determine if they are significant enough to change your mind. I think that there may be other of your Christian brothers and sisters out there that voted that take exception to your article. Think about it; pray about it. And God bless you. Thank you for your blog which I have enjoyed before and will again. It always makes me think and this time was no exception.
As someone who is looking at this election from the outside I find the all the prideful statements made by both leaders distastful. With all due respect I think many christians in the US seem to have a blind spot when it comes to nationalism. America may be a "christian" nation but it is not God fearing or Christ following. It is time for the Church of Jesus Christ to wake up to the fact that our country is a heavenly country. We are all sojourners,foreiners, our citizenship is in heaven! We need to warn people of this tower of babel this false babylonian system which the stone not cut by human hands is going to destroy. If I was an American I would have found it difficult to vote for Romney after some of the prideful statements he made near the end of the election. Even the stage that was set up last night for his election speech in big letters "BELIEVE IN AMERICA" Should it not say BELIEVE IN GOD? It's sad I love americans and our country has prospered in many ways because of our neighborly relationship but its time for real change. The bible tells us many nations and people will mourn because of her loss of wealth but Jesus is our Lord and he is bringing a new world order!
ReplyDeleteCOME LORD JESUS COME!
As a Born Again Believer, I feel that I need to help you understand a more biblical view. I don't claim to be a good writer so with that said and this being the morning after, I hope I make myself clear. The world today is staring down the barrel of Armageddon because 4,000 years ago Abram and Sarai decided that the Lord needed their help. No waiting on the Lord, go get my bondwoman Hagar. I will create the Child of Promise. This is our our lot. The flesh is always going to help the Lord. That's not what my bible teaches. I will stand in front of my Savior one day, and I will not have to answer about voting for a man who believes that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers because America needed my help. A man who believes that God the Father came as a human and had sex with Mary to produce Jesus. A man who probably wears underwear dedicated to Satan, and in his theology believes that the Mormons have replaced the Jews and that, one day the Temple will be set up in Missouri. It has been a while since I have looked at their theology, so I am believing most of this to be accurate? Either way it is the short version. So my choice was to choose between a man who is a closest Muslim, and has an agenda which sucks the Left in with Abortion,Homosexuality, and takes God and Jerusalem out of their plank, and replaces Freedom for a promise of making everything free, and this is also the short version. So that I can vote for a man that believes he will grow up one day an be a god over a Universe, like the True God. More than 50 years ago, my father told me that I would probably live long enough to see all the armies of the world gather to take Jerusalem, away from the Jewish people. The Republican Plank calls for the creation of a Palestinian State carved out of "Promised Land". If my understanding is correct God's Wrath is poured out on all those nations that come against the Jewish people and the City of Jerusalem. I will bring this to a close or it could be a dissertation. It has been estimated that perhaps there where as many as 4 Billion people on the earth at the time of the flood. Only 8 people got on the Ark. It has been estimated at the time of Elijah that perhaps there where about 7 million Jews, and he believed he was the only one who hadn't bowed the knee. He was wrong, but God had 7,000 who where mentioned in scripture. Again a small number. Jesus said, Narrow is the way". It has been estimated that 7-8% of Evangelicals refused to vote for Romney, let alone Obama. I am not saying that anyone who voted for Romney isn't a Believer or that they will miss the "Catching Away". What I am saying is as we see that day approaching it appears that the narrowing is still alive and well. The Blessed Hope is coming. Keep Looking Up, James Staten
ReplyDeleteWe as christians can't stop what is written.Tribulation time is here! Israel became a nation in 1948 and the generation to see this and the birth pangs will not pass before we see the coming of the Lord.We should be watchmen and warn the world of the coming judgement.Witness to them all.He came not to judge but to grant us eternal life! It is the free gift to all who might believe. GOD loves us! Time is short. Persecution is happening.Only those who hold out till the end shall be saved.Maranatha, COME LORD JESUS COME
ReplyDeleteLook into black box voting. Voting is rigged. Many times there are 2,000 or more votes than there are registered voters. Votes can not be checked or verified because of the machines. Often times, 18,000 votes will just disappear. Also, Romney cheated Ron Paul out of his early victories. Never the less, I voted for Romney. God help us all.
ReplyDeleteI voted and am troubled by the outcome and our current direction. Seeing what God has in store as a result of this is now my earnest desire.
ReplyDeleteWe cannot always understand the world around us or the decisions millions of Americans made yesterday. One thing I do know: we have lost the illumination that our founding fathers realized that this country was forged through God's principles grounded in the Bible. Nevertheless, He still presides over our country.
Doug,
ReplyDeleteA lot there... but let me hit two of your points.
First.. I agree and have written many post about the progressive Left media and Obama and the masses and some of the other theories in which you have shared.
Second.. Romney and the Rep. establishment feared losing the Evangelical vote. It is all over the internet etc.. but they wanted those moderate/liberal independents far more.
Thanks my friend for your reply! and our hope and message here is that the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand my friend. Hope you continue to follow the Ignorant Fishermen Blog.
I voted yesterday if there was any misunderstanding. I was going after those who sat home.
Even so Come Lord Jesus!!
David
Charles, This must be your first time to the IFB and I fully agree. We have written countless posts relating to that very subject check them out if you get a chance... but while here in in time we are to be salt my friend and that includes voting for the lesser of the two evils for the furtherance of the Gospel my friend. Indeed we have a Heavenly home but Christ has kept us in the world to be light (Matt. 5:13-16,John 17:13-18).
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David
James, I fully agree that is our motto here at the Ignorant Fishermen Blog. "The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!"
ReplyDeletebut... while here in in time we are to be salt my friend and that includes voting for the lesser of the two evils for the furtherance of the Gospel my friend. It is our secular duty. If Mitt was talking Biblical doctrine and Theology then there would NEVER be any compromise but we are NOT talking Biblical theology but conservative and American politics (the Laws of Nature and Nature's God. Two different realms my friend in which we as believers both live in (Matt. 5:13-16, Eph. 1:1-5, Col. 3:1-3. Indeed we have a Heavenly home but Christ has kept us in the world to be light spiritually and physically (Matt. 5:13-16,John 17:13-18). Thanks for your comment!
David
Pockets, as did I my friend. NEVER was in Mitt's camp... EVER... but he was the lesser of the two evils.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your reply!!
David
Donald, Thanks for your reply and Awesome attitude! I hear you my friend. I like the word "REALITY" better than illusion when talking of our founding fathers they knew what was up...
ReplyDeleteWhat it is all about stay tuned to the Ignorant Fishermen Blog and we will keep you on the cutting edge! We are headed straight into seven years of tribulation after the Rapture my friend (Rev. 6-19). It is all good in God's will. Tribulation and then the Kingdom Age FOREVER (Isa. 2:1-4, 11:1-10, Micah 4:1-4, Rev. 19:11-21).
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!!
David
David, I apologize to you I came off rather harsh. It was still early, and I like many was tired from election night. I of course wanted to vote for Romney. He is probably a good man just deceived? Anybody but Obama. If I lived in one of the swing states then I would have had a lot of pressure. I understand your position. I have been catching hades from different friends for mine. I come to your site often. Please forgive me. Jesus is coming soon...James
ReplyDeleteJames... Its all good my friend! I got only 4 hours sleep last night myself and have taken heat all day at Free Republic.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your reply and I did not take any offense.
God speed my friend!!
David
Chin up David. I too was sick in my spirit when the waterboy of the antichrist was announced "leader" of the "free world" once again, voted in again by his minions. However, this can only mean one thing....it was supposed to happen. It only puts us one step closer to the Trumpet blast, because if this isn't God's Judgement on this world, then all of a sudden I'll start believing Darwin. Ain't NO WAY this wasn't OK'ed by the Lord for His purposes. In spite of himself, O is nothing more than a piece of the puzzle made by the Lord when He said "My thoughts are higher than your thoughts, and My ways are higher than your ways" Not to worry....He is still on the throne, and He ain't going nowhere.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your thoughtful reply.
ReplyDeleteI was surprised to read James Staten's claim that about 7% of evangelicals refused to vote for Mitt Romney. If that is true, then it adds credibility to your original collumn.
Also, I am encouraged by the comments posted by your readers -- and by your replies -- reminding me that God is still on His throne!
Doug
Michael,
ReplyDeleteIt's all good my friend as you stated! Indeed even if Romney won there is no way to save this nation from emplosion since 2006 elections.
Even so come!
Col. 3:1-3
David
Doug, Thanks my friend and God speed!
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In the Seattle area the evangelicals voted for Obama. I think they are confused about homosexuality and believe it isn't a sin. They also think a woman should be able to have an abortion. They are blinded and cannot see the truth.
ReplyDeleteLooks like the evangelicals have clay feet and it is the godless, the athiests, the unbelievers, and all the others who are going to run America. Not that will have any effect on the clap trap you dollup up here. But you should have the humility to at least consider it a possible failing that americans are losing faith in the evangelical churches - way too much politics and not near enough decency - tried and found wanting!
ReplyDeleteAll to be swept away!